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PostSubject: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:12 pm




The White House has emphatically denied any notion that Hillary Clinton will replace Joe Biden as President Obama's running mate in 2012. On top of that, the secretary of state herself has pooh-poohed the idea.

The latest wave of Hillary buzz was amplified Tuesday night when Bob Woodward, author of the new book "Obama's Wars," told CNN's John King that a possible Obama-Clinton ticket is "on the table." The idea is that Clinton would energize a 2012 campaign -- particularly among women. In some scenarios, Biden, former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, would take over as secretary of state.

But there's a big problem with all of this juicy speculation. The White House has consistently denied any such deal is in the works. "There's absolutely nothing to it," senior aide David Axelrod told the Washington Post late Tuesday. "The president is blessed to have a spectacular vice president and an outstanding secretary of state. They're both doing great work, and he wants them on the job." Another Obama adviser was more blunt, calling the idea "nuts." Longtime Clinton adviser James Carville also chimed in. "I'd be stunned if there's anything to it. Anything is possible in politics. But I don't know of anything beyond speculation, and I really doubt it's anything," he told the Post.

Joe Biden, Hillary ClintonMany Clinton supporters wanted her on the 2008 ticket after she finished a close second to Obama in the primaries. But she is arguably more valuable to the administration -- and the nation -- as secretary of state then she would be as vice president, a position with few prescribed official duties.

"I don't believe what I read," Clinton said with a laugh during during an appearance at the "Most Powerful Women Summit" in Washington on Wednesday. "I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on." She added that "the vice president is doing a wonderful job."


Swap talk is nothing new. In August, a Time magazine writer suggested Obama should consider dumping Biden as he plans his reelection bid. "Amid two wars, a stubborn unemployment rate . . . might the White House need a little star power to jump-start what could be a tougher reelection than expected?" wrote contributor Dan Fastenberg. "As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton has been striking the same tone as Team No Drama Obama, as opposed to the human gaffe machine."
Earlier that month, former Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder wrote in a Politico op-ed piece that Obama should replace Biden with Clinton, in part because she would help win back "middle-class independent voters," who have drifted away from the president. Working-class voters, said Wilder, have always been "more enamored of Clinton." The former governor, who is African American, didn't say it, but "working class" in this context could be code for white voters, a group Hillary ran stronger among than did Obama when they opposed each other -- sometimes bitterly -- in the 2008 primary campaign. Wilder went on to make a case against Biden, saying his verbal blunders are not only fodder for late-night comedians but have undermined "what little confidence the public may have in him."
In a piece for the Washington Post website in June, Sally Quinn wrote that Clinton and Biden, former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, should switch jobs. She argued that Clinton has done "an incredible job" at State and, even in her late 60s, would be a strong candidate for president in 2016, while Biden, who is older, has no intention of seeking the White House. In the short-term, Obama and Clinton would be a "near-unbeatable team" in 2012, according to Quinn.

A month earlier Politics Daily's Eleanor Clift beat everyone to the punch by suggesting the same thing. She wrote that "Obama's loyalty only goes so far," and if polls show an Obama-Clinton ticket would run stronger in 2012, he "might well have Biden step aside." Besides, Clift argued, Biden "would be a natural at the State Department."

But Biden as vice president got an endorsement Tuesday night from one of his predecessors, Walter Mondale. "Joe Biden is truly a great vice president," Mondale told a crowd in St. Paul, with Biden looking on. "He's truly helping the country and our president, at home and abroad. He's a strong, seasoned voice. He knows Congress and he nation."
It's been more than three decades since a president has thrown his vice president overboard. A change at the top can be seen as a sign of disarray, panic even. Dan Quayle, regarded by his critics as a lightweight, survived in 1992 but the Bush-Quayle ticket lost to Clinton-Gore. The last president to make a change was Republican Gerald Ford, who replaced Vice President Nelson Rockefeller with Sen. Bob Dole in 1976 and went on to lose to a peanut farmer from Georgia named Jimmy Carter. Mondale was his running mate.


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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:54 pm

I heard this on the news on the way home today. I guess they are running scared and we know the monkeyman hates Biden. They're hopeing to get the women vote? Does not matter they are a bunch of assholes every last one of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:09 pm

I don't believe they have a dog's chance n hell of resurrecting the election in November much less the 2012's! More power to them and to the tricks they will try but I still do not think it will do them any good!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:09 pm

Well I hope you're right. I dont care to take anymore bullshit from libshits or demoncraps!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:25 pm

I hear from folks down here the black vote is rethinking their position and the black vote may be eroding in support of the Dems! I am sure the support will be there and it will go to Dems but if it even falls a few points that just may be enough to make a huge difference in the Pubs!!! I hope so!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:28 pm

I hope so too. Historically when a party starts screwing up, many voters wont bother to vote, they stay home and sulk.
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:31 pm

I hope that exact thing happens. From all the negative publicity and the Dems being in trouble, many have the attitude so what! I can't make a difference and if they do not go vote, they will not make any difference. That will be good for us!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:34 pm

We can only hope. I know the black folk are not happy with that turkey. He promised them the moon and gave them a bag of horse shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:37 pm

We can hope for other factions that he has failed to deliver for to be just as unhappy with him and the like to vote against him or just not show up at all. Either way it will work in our favor this round. I will be there voting and promoting the vote for all I come into contact with!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:40 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:58 pm

I have to go now... see ya tomorrow sweet cheeks LMAO

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:06 pm

Sweet dreams!! Nitety nite!!! Sleep tite!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:55 pm

I get to looking at the T shirts and I can't remember what we are voting for!!!! LMAO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:40 pm

ROTFLMAO Maybe this will jog your memory!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:59 pm

What Vote!!!!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:35 pm

Just threw that in there to see if you were paying attention, old fart.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:43 am

LMAO Thats a keeper.
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:04 am

I wonder if this is what happened to Hillary's face? Would this cause it to pucker or droop or whatever the hell happened to her? So tacky!!! OMG!!! I can't believe I pick on her so much!! LMAO!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:23 am

It's understandable...she has that kind of face.....the kind you want to throw dog poop at. ROTFLMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:00 am

I think it has already been in the poop, just can't figure out which poop yet!! Anything is an improvement though!!! LMAO!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary Clinton for Joe Biden Swap? Woodward Says Maybe, but She Says No Way   Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:34 pm

LMAO POOP IS POOP THE SMELLIER THE BETTER FOR HER.
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