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 Utah Seeks to Seize Federal Land Under Eminent Domain

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PostSubject: Utah Seeks to Seize Federal Land Under Eminent Domain    Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:41 pm

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At a time when many states are looking at ways to strike back at an out-of-control federal government which is planning to saddle them with more and more massive, unfunded mandates and unconstitutional obligations, the government of Utah has found an interesting way to strike back. It's not as direct as the approach being pursued by more than a dozen states which are suing the federal government over Obamacare, but it may turn out to be even more effective.

The Utah state legislature has passed two bills which have been signed by Governor Gary Herbert, which will begin the process of seizing valuable federal land within the state under the rules of eminent domain. The idea has a certain charming irony to it considering how often state and federal governments have used eminent domain to deprive citizens of their property rights, but the results could be of enormous benefits to the citizens of Utah.

Utah is like several other western states which have enormous amounts of land that are under federal control. In their case it is a total of 60% of their land area, including major fossil fuel deposits which the Obama administration has ruled off-limits for mining and drilling. The state government hopes to take control of that land, sell leases for the mineral rights and spend that money to solve some of the state's budgetary problems including public education funding.

The federal government controls similarly large areas of resource-rich land in 12 western states totaling about 650 million acres. Most of this land is under the control of the Department of the Interior through the Bureau of Land Management, Forest Service and Department of Agriculture. It includes about 200 million acres of forest land, 80 million acres of park land and 90 million acres of wildlife refuge. If other states were to follow Utah's lead the potential payoff in mineral, energy and other natural resources — maybe even in tourism dollars — would be extraordinary.

There have been past proposals, including federal legislation, to return some or all of the land or the resource rights to the states, but with a weak economy, tight budgets and new unfunded mandates like additional unemployment costs and coming health care costs, the need is greater now than ever before.

Unfortunately, the states which have this option and might follow Utah's lead are mostly not ones with the large populations which will make the coming costs unbearable. They will also face years of legal resistance from the federal government before they are likely to see any results from their efforts. The importance of Utah's effort may be mostly symbolic, but with the federal government willfully ignoring the best interests of the people, it's at least some reassurance that there are states which are looking for solutions and trying to protect their citizens with whatever methods they can come up with.


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PostSubject: Re: Utah Seeks to Seize Federal Land Under Eminent Domain    Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:09 pm

Makes me proud to say I am one of their CFP Instructors. You Go Utah!!N Stand up to them.
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PostSubject: Re: Utah Seeks to Seize Federal Land Under Eminent Domain    Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:22 pm

Lot more states need to stand up to them. Only a couple are but it is good to see them doing it even if it is only a couple.

Maybe a few more will grow a set and fallow.

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PostSubject: Re: Utah Seeks to Seize Federal Land Under Eminent Domain    Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:47 am

+1

Will not expect it. Even the states have become over dependent on fed money.
I still think if the States stopped sending the feds money they could drop state taxes and still have more money than they get from the feds.
Most states give billions to the feds and get less back than they put it.
Much like citizens and social security.
We pay in more in our life times than we get in return when we begin drawing. I don't doubt that by the time I need it it won't be here, or I will have to be 90 years old to qualify. Which means I will probably be dead and I won't get one red cent of what I paid in back. Then all the money I did pay in will be given to another illegal who shouldn't even be in this country.
Our government sucks huge elephant wanker.

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PostSubject: Re: Utah Seeks to Seize Federal Land Under Eminent Domain    Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:09 am

Freedom; I agree 100% I have said all along when I got to the point I could draw, there would be nothing left there to draw or the program would change and I would get cut out. Well I am 62.5 and it really does appear that by the time I reach 65 (maybe even 66) there ain't gonna be nothing left to draw! One hell of a program if you ask me!
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