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PostSubject: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:36 am

WASHINGTON - Late Friday, the White House turned over new documents in the Congressional investigation into the ATF "Fast and Furious" gunwalking scandal.


The documents show extensive communications between then-ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office Bill Newell - who led Fast and Furious - and then-White House National Security Staffer Kevin O'Reilly. Emails indicate the two also spoke on the phone. Such detailed, direct communications between a local ATF manager in Phoenix and a White House national security staffer has raised interest among Congressional investigators looking into Fast and Furious. Newell has said he and O'Reilly are long time friends.


Newly-released White House documents (pdf)


ATF agents say that in Fast and Furious, their agency allowed thousands of assault rifles and other weapons to be sold to suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels. At least two of the guns turned up at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry last December.


ATF Manager says he shared Fast and Furious with the White House

The email exchanges span a little over a month last summer. They discuss ATF's gun trafficking efforts along the border including the controversial Fast and Furious case, though not by name. The emails to and from O'Reilly indicate more than just a passing interest in the Phoenix office's gun trafficking cases. They do not mention specific tactics such as "letting guns walk."


A lawyer for the White House wrote Congressional investigators: "none of the communications between ATF and the White House revealed the investigative law enforcement tactics at issue in your inquiry, let alone any decision to allow guns to 'walk.'"


ATF Fast and Furious: Who at the White House knew?

Among the documents produced: an email in which ATF's Newell sent the White House's O'Reilly an "arrow chart reflecting the ultimate destination of firearms we intercepted and/or where the guns ended up." The chart shows arrows leading from Arizona to destinations all over Mexico.

Newell email (09.03.10) (pdf)
Arizona Gunrunner Impact Team chart (pdf)


In response, O'Reilly wrote on Sept. 3, 2010 "The arrow chart is really interesting - and - no surprise - implies at least that different (Drug Trafficking Organizations) in Mexico have very different and geographically distinct networks in the US for acquiring guns. Did last year's TX effort develop a similar graphic?"


O'Reilly email (09.03.10) (pdf)

The White House counsel who produced the documents stated that some records were not included because of "significant confidentiality interests."



(Credit: CBS) Also included are email photographs including images of a .50 caliber rifle (left) that Newell tells O'Reilly "was purchased in Tucson, Arizona (part of another OCDTF case)." OCDTF is a joint task force that operates under the Department of Justice and includes the US Attorneys, ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE and IRS. Fast and Furious was an OCDTF case.


An administration source would not describe the Tucson OCDTF case. However, CBS News has learned that ATF's Phoenix office led an operation out of Tucson called "Wide Receiver." Sources claim ATF allowed guns to "walk" in that operation, much like Fast and Furious.


Congressional investigators for Republicans Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) have asked to interview O'Reilly by September 30. But the Administration informed them that O'Reilly is on assignment for the State Department in Iraq and unavailable.


One administration source says White House national security staffers were "briefed on the toplines of ongoing federal efforts, but nobody in White House knew about the investigative tactics being used in the operation, let alone any decision to let guns walk."

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:47 am

It is getting closer and closer!! WH knew exactly what was going on and the docs and testimony will show that out before the investigative committee quits!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:41 am

I surely hope so, but with this asshole, anyone who is prosecuted will get presidential amnesty before his term is up.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:53 am

Maybe so but at least it will sloe them down as they get prosecuted! He will not be there forever!!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:03 pm

No he wont. But my worries and concerns are with the Supreme Court nominations if he is not defeated this election.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:01 pm

Valid concern but then there is the Senate confirmation process after he nominates them!! By then the Senate will not be a Demoncrap majority!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:22 pm

We can only hope and pray at this point in time.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:30 pm

And continue to work to get rid of the Demoncraps and Liberturds in control of the program!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:15 pm


White House sends Hill Fast & Furious docs, but withholds some
The White House sent another installment of documents to Congress on Friday detailing White House staffers' knowledge about the controversial "Operation Fast & Furious" gunrunning probe run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives.

However, the chief counsel to President Barack Obama, Kathryn Ruemmler, indicated that the White House was withholding an unspecified number of internal e-mails exchanged among three National Security Staff aides.

"These internal NSS emails are not included in the enclosed documents because the [Executive Office of the President] has significant confidentiality interests in its internal communications," Ruemmler wrote in a letter to House Oversight & Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). The letter, posted here, was obtained Friday by POLITICO.

The latest batch of 102 pages of records partially duplicated information previously sent to Congress and didn't appear to include any smoking guns showing that White House officials were aware that the operation involved allowing hundreds or thousands of guns to flow essentially unimpeded from the U.S. to Mexican drug cartels.

"As today's production makes clear, none of the communications between ATF and the White House revealed the investigative law enforcement tactics at issue in your inquiry, let alone any decision to let guns 'walk,'" Ruemmler wrote in response to a letter Issa and Grassley sent to National Security Adviser Tom Donilon earlier this month.



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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:53 pm

Well well well!!! Guess which ones they withheld!!! Let me think just a moment!!! OH!! I GOT IT!!! If any of them referred to the Fast and Furious program and implicated the WH in any manner, it was withheld as a matter of national security!!! KISS MY GRITS!!! Lying Bastards!!! They all knew!! It will come out!! Just hide and watch!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:44 pm

No kidding. He better hope the Good Lord doesn't make him in some way make these articles availible.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:51 pm

Ain't the Good Lord gonna make him give them up!! LMAO!! He will have a choice at some point in time, fork them over or go to jail!!! GGG!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:08 pm

Can they do that to him?
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:42 pm

I believe a Congressional Hearing legally convened has the authority to arrest and imprison the Pres!! I would love to see it happen!! they have some very specific things that have to be done to get it in place but I believe they have the power! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:51 pm

Iasked my computor and this is what I got. Although the article is from the Bush era, read through it and you will come to Article of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.



Martin Lewis.Posted: August 25, 2007 03:08 AM BIO Become a Fan Get Email Alerts Bloggers' Index .General Pace, You Can Save the US - by Arresting Bush for "Conduct Unbecoming"
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Dear General Pace,

I note with admiration your courage in making clear your private concerns about the safety of the US military and the longterm danger to US national security caused by the President's stubborn refusal to acknowledge the quagmire in Iraq.

Though you are Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the President's principal military advisor - President Bush has shown his disdain for your honesty and wisdom. Though you are a decorated Vietnam war hero - who has served his nation honorably for four decades - the President is dispensing with your services. You have one month left in your position before you are tossed out by the President.

President Bush is going to ignore your advice. Just as he has ignored the advice of other Generals who have had the courage to respectfully point out how terribly wrong he is in respect of the Iraq War and the safety of the US military he is sworn to protect. Highly-decorated colleagues of yours such as General Anthony Zinni (Commander in Chief of U.S. Central Command), General Eric Shinseki (Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army) and General John Abizaid (Commander of the U.S. Central Command).

General Pace - you have the power to fulfill your responsibility to protect the troops under your command. Indeed you have an obligation to do so.

You can relieve the President of his command.

Not of his Presidency. But of his military role as Commander-In-Chief.

You simply invoke the Uniform Code Of Military Justice.

The United States Code: Title 10, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 47, Subchapter X, Section 934.

Article 134 reads:

"Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court."


Article 133 reads:

"Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

A gentleman is understood to have a duty to avoid dishonest acts, displays of indecency, lawlessness, dealing unfairly, indecorum, injustice, or acts of cruelty.

To be crystal clear - I am NOT advocating or inciting you to undertake any illegal act, insurrection, mutiny, putsch or military coup. You are an honorable patriotic man.

I am NOT advocating or inciting you to interfere with any of the civilian duties of the President. That would not be a legal action by you.

However you have the legal responsibility - under Article 134 of the Uniform Code Of Military Justice - to protect the troops under your command by relieving the President of his MILITARY command.

If you have reason to believe that the President is responsible for "disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces" and for "conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital" then you have the obligation to act.

In addition to relieving him of his command as Commander-In-Chief, you also have authority to place the President under MILITARY arrest.

Article 7 of the Uniform Code Of Military Justice specifically says:


(b) Any person authorized under regulations governing the armed forces to apprehend persons subject to this Code may do so upon reasonable belief that an offense has been committed and that the person apprehended committed it.

(c) All officers, warrant officers, petty officers, and noncommissioned officers shall have authority to quell all quarrels, frays, and disorders among persons subject to this Code and to apprehend persons subject to this Code who take part in the same.

I understand that it would not be an action to undertake lightly.

In all your 39 years of service you have shown total loyalty to the chain of command.

However, given the current imperilment of US troops, and the "Conduct Unbecoming Of An Officer And A Gentleman" of this President - you have a greater responsibility to your nation, your code of honor and to the US Constitution.

I wish you well as you prepare to undertake the most heroic action of your distinguished career.

General Pace - please save the US.

Respectfully yours,

Martin Lewis



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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:04 pm

I do not practice with the UCCMJ and am not that familiar with it but I knew it existed! When you get into it I know enough to be dangerous!! LMAO!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:00 pm

They are some serious contenders. I dont want to mess with them.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:01 pm

I know enough to get some helpl if I get off in that! I also know where to get that help!!! LMAO!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:16 am

I'll stay away fromit.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:01 am

I never run from a good fight! Don't care where it is if there is something to be gained from it or someone that is being tormented unnecessarily! Never have had a reason or opportunity to delve off into the UCCMJ to any extent! That just might be my next career change!!! LMAO!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:28 pm

Go for it big guy. Only the military are a bunch of hard asses and I dont want nothing to do with them, especially the officers. I never liked them and never will. I know they have a serious job to perform, but I do not appreciate the hierachy BS that goes along with it.
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:34 pm

That is what is nice as I understand it! I would not have to tolerate the BS!! They would have to put up with me!! i don't know yet! Have not made up my mind! I have been licensed in COVA out of DC for almost 20 years but never actively sought appointments! Might just be a new challenge!! LMAO!! For them!!

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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:18 am

What is COVA?
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PostSubject: Re: WH Quietly Release Fast & Furious Documents   Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:43 am

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