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PostSubject: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:10 am

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Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes

Weapons from ATF's investigation of weapons trafficking to Mexico gangs were used in El Paso and other cities, the Los Angeles Times reports. In El Paso, authorities seized 32 of the weapons at two crime scene, the newspaper reports. Operation Fast and Furious was a gun trafficking sting run by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms to try to trace illegal gun sales to Mexican crime organizations.



Let me make sure I understand this correctly! ATF runs a scam to track illegal gun sales to cartels. IT goes wrong and several guns get lost! Then the guns show up in crimes in multiple jurisdictions! ATF supervisors are promoted even after they are shown to actively have participated in the scam gone wrong! Even after Congressional hearings, the guns they lost are still turning up in crime scenes in Mexico and several states here in the US? WTH is wrong with these people that are leading our crime fighting efforts? This is totally insane and Little Hitler is blaming the Pubs and anyone/everyone else that he can!!! OMG! What is this country coming to? Pitiful!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:26 pm

The dims have a plan and this is how they are going to work their magic. It is starting to feel like the whole country is going to be against legal honest gun owners.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:34 pm

You can be against me but for damn sure do not register my guns and sure as hell don't come and try to take them! Hey are mine, not Little Hitler's!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:42 pm

I'm convinced that, that is what they have in mind. They can not make this a socialist society as long as the citizens have weapons. This I am convinced is written in stone.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:50 pm

I believe it will never turn into a socialistic society because there are too many of us out there that will never surrender or submit! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:01 pm

That sure makes me feel better BUT you will be fighting the police in blue helmets(UN forces) This has been in the works since the clinton administration.


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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:08 pm

I really don't care what color they are or what they are wearing if they come after my guns or my right to own them! JMHO!! Ain't happening!! Meet me at the courthouse in Dallas! The Federal District Judge's courtroom! I am on that list and have appeared before several of them!! Welcome to my world!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:09 pm

OH!!! Bring a copy of the US Constitution so we can read over it and talk about it while we are there!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:21 pm

What did you do in the court house? If I may ask. Can I do that too? Forgive me for my ignorance of the law.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:31 pm

Represent folks that need an attorney! My clients! That is the way I make a living!!! Yes you can do it too! All it takes is a law degree from an accredited law school, a successful passing score on the bar exam and then petitioning the state where you are practicing for a law license and then petitioning the Federal Districts and the Supreme Court for the right to practice in front of them! Let me add it up for you so you will have a better handle on it!@! LMAO!! About six figures for the three years tuition and books and fees for law school, another six to eight months for the bar exam and probably $3K for the prep course and testing fees! Then finding someone that will sign off on you being of good character and the capability to be a member of the federal bar in each District! I am sure there are some things along the way that I missed but that is a snapshot of what you would need to do in order to practice in front of a Federal District judge!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:41 pm

I was not going that route I was mearly wondering what I could do, I gues the only thing I could do is hire a lawyer. LMAO. Here's a little tidbit from the NRA's newsletter on the small arms treaty the bitch and the other bitch are trying to succeed with.

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:09 pm

I think enough Demoncraps have already stood up and said to Little Hitler to not go there as they could not and would not support such a thing! How in the world did these idiots get in our country? Don't they realize our country was formed with a gun in one hand and a pen in the other?

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:04 am

This is from Wikipedia.


Early American Socialism and its leadersThe Socialist Labor Party was officially founded in 1876 at a convention in Newark, New Jersey. The party was made up overwhelmingly of German immigrants, who had brought Marxist ideals with them to North America. So strong was the heritage, that the official party language was German for the first three years. In its nascent years the party encompassed a broad range of various socialist philosophies, with differing concepts of how to achieve their goals. Nevertheless, there was a militia, the Lehr und Wehr Verein affiliated to the party. When the SLP reorganised as a Marxist party in 1890, their philosophy became solidified and their influence quickly grew, and by the turn of the century the SLP was the foremost American socialist party.

American Socialism was based on an ideology known today as "democratic socialism." The eventual goal of the movement was to give control of the means of production to the working class, and, in particular, to transfer ownership of major industries to their respective employees, relinquishing "capital to those who create it." Democratic socialists wish to achieve their goals by winning elections (rather than organizing a revolution or a general strike, as other socialists wish to do). Thus the Socialist Party strongly advocated universal suffrage, in order to politically empower the [oppressed] working class, or "proletariat."

Bringing to light the resemblance of the American party’s politics to those of Lassalle, Daniel De Leon emerged as an early leader of the Socialist Labor Party. He was also an adamant supporter of unions, but critical of the collective bargaining movement within America at the time, favoring a slightly different approach.[3] The resulting disagreement between De Leon’s supporters and detractors within the party led to an early schism. De Leon's opponents, led by Morris Hillquit, left the Socialist Labor Party in 1901 and fused with Eugene V. Debs's Social Democratic Party and formed the Socialist Party of America.



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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:39 pm

How in the world did you let them do this in NJ??? Started there??? Sounds as if you have a bunch of coconuts up there! LMAO!! I just don't see how this is going to fly!!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:09 pm

Isn't that something, nothing ever goes well here except being one of the 13 original colonies and Thomas Edison. GGG It's been flying for well over 100 years and they did take the gold out of the monetary system and established the federal reserve. They are a dangerous bunch. They have been dumping 25 million dollars yearly into anti-gun groups.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:31 pm

It may fly there but I just do not see it going over well down here! JMHO!! I suppose you are going to have for and against anything in the world ut I can tell you the anti-gun folks are not going to win anything! There are too many of us and now we are beginning to organize and cut it off before it gets out of hand!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:33 pm

It has definately evened out a little, with Wayne LaPierre as VP it has gotten very interesting and now David Keene installed as Pres. it should get even more interesting. I'm glad to see Mr. Keene aboard.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:18 pm

I am just glad they are finally recognizing that we are tired of all this crap and it is going to slow down. IT still may take another 18 months or so but it is coming and the anti gun folks are going to be fewer and farther between!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:02 pm

They say it will take 10, 15 or 20 years for that, according to David Keene.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:36 pm

Maybe all over the country that will be true but for just down here, 18 months should do it!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:06 pm

Isuppose in a few places people will react positive to gun ownership just like many places will take more time. I know around by me it will be mixed, caused by the dim controlled enviorment. Anything positive will be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:44 pm

The Demoncraps are so aggravated with Little Hitler there ar more rumblings about someone else stepping up and running against him in the Demoncrap Primary!! that noise is getting louder by the day!!! LMAO!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:19 pm

That will be good for the country, we really need to put this administration out of existance.
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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:03 pm

Administration is being used loosely!! Whatever it really is or resembles, it does need to go somewhere else! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Firearms from 'Fast and Furious' linked to El Paso crimes    Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:24 pm

It is kind of starting to ressemble the SS of nazi Germany.
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