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PostSubject: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:58 pm

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National Rifle Association To File Lawsuit Over Bulk Gun Sales Rule


By Jeremy Pelofsky

WASHINGTON -- The gun industry plans to file lawsuits on Wednesday challenging requirements that weapons dealers along the U.S. border with Mexico report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles, escalating the fight with the Obama administration.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives last month ordered more than 8,000 gun dealers in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and California to report such sales to try to stem the "iron river" of guns flowing to the violent Mexican drug cartels.

Dealers are required to report sales of two or more rifles to the same person at one time or during any five business days for semi-automatic weapons greater than .22 caliber and with the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

Two Arizona gun dealers backed by the National Rifle Association, one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, will file a lawsuit in Washington as will the National Shooting Sports Foundation which represents the firearms industry, the groups said.

They will argue that ATF was not authorized by the Congress to require reporting such information about semi-automatic rifles purchases, rather it was only allowed to require reporting about handgun and revolver sales, according to copies of the lawsuits.


"At the time Congress authorized the reporting of multiple sales of handguns, it could have required it for the sale of long guns, but it did not," said Lawrence Keane, general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

The gun dealers and groups will ask the courts to block the ATF from imposing the requirements which begin by August 14, they said. Failure to comply can result in losing their licenses to sell firearms.

About 8,500 gun dealers would be subject to the reporting requirement. Some 36,000 reports of multiple handgun sales were made from the four border states in fiscal 2010, according to ATF.

Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that the regulations were legal and necessary to halt guns going to the drug cartels.

"We will vigorously oppose that lawsuit," Holder said. "We think that the acts that we have taken (are) consistent with the law and that the measures that we are proposing are appropriate ones to stop the flow of guns from the United States into Mexico."

The reporting requirement is one prong of the Obama administration's effort to stop gun trafficking from the border states to Mexico violence has killed tens of thousands since 2006.

One ATF operation to track guns going to Mexico from Arizona has become a full-blown scandal for the Obama administration because agents said they were not allowed to follow guns beyond the initial purchaser. As a result dozens of the weapons have shown up at crime scenes in Mexico.

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:12 pm

I am one of them and I sure did enjoy seeing the suit filed! It directly affects me as I have to begin the reporting by 8-14 or face their scrutiny!! LMAO!!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:18 pm

I saw another article on this subject and now they are talking other groups are joining in. I'll have to go back and find it and post it here.
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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:36 pm

I still have ten days or so to mak eup my mind what I am going to do. I certainly do not need anyone to fund a lawsuit if I decide to file one. I am already admitted to the Northern District and all it would take is me filing the paperwork and paying their filing fee! I don't know just yet and will take my time before I do that! It is still a possibility because I do not like politicians meddling in my business!!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:09 pm

When you do something like that, is it all bunched together with the NRA and others that have filed against them? Or is each filing taken one at a time?
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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:14 pm

When there are multiple folks joining in together against one defendant, they are all lumped together in the same case. When there are multiple folks that file their own separate case, such as mine would be if I do file, I would not be lumped together with anyone anywhere! They would have one in Texas to fight against me and another in DC with the others that joined together!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:31 pm

So the more suits filed the more costly and time consuming for the terrorists? Then if that's the case it could get to be a real pain for that a-hole holder and that's a good thing.
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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:46 pm

I think it would lend credibility to the cause of action when it id filed in two different jurisdictions and in two different states. JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:04 pm

Then it should be done in all four states AO set the tone make some phone calls, give them a taste of judice prudence.(Is that the correct term???)
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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:08 pm

Jurisprudence! Close but no cigar!!! I know what you mean so it is okay!!! They need a tast of something!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:05 pm

Oh crap!!! Did I murder that one or what?!?
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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:58 pm

I knew what you were talking about. GGG!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:44 am

I got this alert last night from the NRA but it's a rehash of the suit. There's a video with this one from FoxNews



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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:35 am

There will be lots of publicity following this thing and that is what I try to steer away from. Just little patience with that kind of crap and will let others handle that side of it. That will still not make me back away from the attempt to put them on notice that it is not okay to push me into doing something that is not legal nor called for in the gun laws thatrare in place right now!

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PostSubject: Re: NRA sues obamama administration over bulk gun sales   Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:35 pm

You're right hearing it once should suffice, more than that can eat at a person.
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