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PostSubject: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:09 pm

Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits

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Texans seeking concealed-handgun permits might soon need to get them in Texas to carry their weapons.State
Rep. Lon Burnam, D-Fort Worth, said he's tired of Texans turning to
states with cheaper fees and less training requirements -- some don't
even require people to fire a weapon -- to get concealed-handgun
licenses.So he's filed a bill that would recognize only
Texas-issued licenses for people who live in Texas. Visitors'
concealed-handgun permits issued by other states would still be
recognized."This would close a loophole," Burnam said. "People
are bypassing us, using this loophole to pay half as much money and not
get the training they should get. ... I want to make sure they have to
get their license here."Burnam's proposal has drawn criticism
from some, including Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, who, as a state
senator, shepherded the concealed-handgun license measure through the
Senate in 1995."When you start precluding recognition of licenses
from other states, you have to be careful you don't have other states
saying they won't recognize Texas licenses," Patterson said.The proposalBurnam
said he learned last year that some Texans are turning to other states,
including Utah, for concealed-handgun licenses. Classes for the Utah
permit are held throughout Texas.A Utah permit requires four
hours of training with no live shooting, is good for five years and
costs $65.25. A Texas permit requires 10 hours of training in the
classroom and shooting range, is good for four years and costs $140.Utah
had issued nearly 250,000 permits through June. As of August, more than
6,000 of those had been issued to people living in Texas, records show.Texas
issued 138,768 permits in 2009, including more than 10,000 in Tarrant
County, Texas Department of Public Safety records show.Burnam
said Texans seeking out-of-state licenses undermine public safety and
have deprived the state of potentially $850,000 in fees over two years."I
don't think it was ever anyone's intention that people could get this
license without going through Texas' training," he said.ReciprocityState
officials have worked to make sure Texas recognizes dozens of other
states' permits -- and that those states recognize Texas permits.Patterson said he renewed his license in Pennsylvania when Texas faced a backlog in processing license renewals a few years ago."It
looked like I wouldn't have time to renew my Texas license ... and I
didn't want to have a lapse," Patterson said. "Mine was issued by a
sheriff in Pennsylvania. ... It was just an interim measure."Of
course we could fix all this if Congress would pass a law that all
states that allow concealed-handgun permits have to recognize all other
permits, just like driver's licenses."Lawmakers in New Mexico and
Nevada withdrew recognition of Utah licenses in recent years because of
worries about license requirements."A lot of states are
concerned with what Utah does," said Marsha McCartney, a Dallas
volunteer for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "It just seems
to be a moneymaker for them. They're willing to issue a license to
anyone."Why would Texas put in place these restrictions if you
could go elsewhere? If you live in Texas and you're going to conceal
carry, you ought to have a concealed license from Texas," she said.
"It's common sense."'Meat and potatoes'Brad
Brasuell, a concealed-handgun-permit instructor from Denton, has been
conducting classes for more than three years to help Texans get Utah
concealed-weapon permits. Before that, he taught classes for people
seeking Texas permits."When I was doing the Texas class, I felt
they weren't getting enough out of it," said Brasuell, who carries a
Utah concealed-weapon permit. "The Utah class sticks to the meat and
potatoes of what they need to know in the civilian world, without all
the bureaucracy and fluff of the Texas program. People say the Texas
program costs too much money and takes up too much time."Brasuell
said he's not worried that the Utah class doesn't include live
shooting. "The shooting requirement in Texas is a joke and a falseness
of security," he said. "I have seen people who never shot before pass it
and feel they can defend themselves. That is not the truth."Brasuell
said Texas is not losing revenue from people getting out-of-state
licenses because those people wouldn't carry a license at all if their
only choice were to go through the Texas classes."It's a law enforcement class for civilians," he said.Anna M. Tinsley,817-390-7610


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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:19 pm

So you guys thought we did not have any Demoncraps or Liberturds down here!! Well I have news for you!! State Rep Lon Burnam is a Demoncreap out of Fort Worth, TX, and guess what his rating from teh NRA is?? "F" adn it does not get any worse than that!!! Can you believe it? A state representative form Cowtown and gets an F rating from the NRA! WTH!!! I don't know for sure but I got to tell you I believe he is an import! I do not think for a minute a TX born and bred native could ever be in that mindset!! I am just blown away! Fort Wroth has some of the toughest and most far reaching budget cuts from any city in Texas and here comes the dork trying to thumb his nose at the State of Utah and the reciprocity that has been in place not for over 6 years!!! This is kust unbelievable taking place right here in Texas!! Looks like there is going to be some campaigning done when I find out when he is up for reelection!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:11 pm

Serves you right. Dadburn it. GGG
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:49 pm

You know he could have just sat down and shut up if he didn't have something good and constructive to say, But no, he had to go and pick on something near and dear to most of his folks that he is supposed to represent!! I think he just took a dump in his nest!!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:26 pm

More than likely, he's a demoncrap, they do real dumb things lately.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:50 pm

He is a Demoncrap!! First I don't know how Fort Worth elected one and then I don't know how they got one against guns!! Go figure!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:02 pm

Must be an Austin transplant. GGG
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:43 pm

Haven't found out yet but that is the typical Austin idiot!!! Don't get me wrong as there are still a few from Austin that have not gone off the deep end. But, there are more that have than have not! He would fit right in down there!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:57 pm

They stretch into every corner of this land. Like one of those very heavy deadly farts. They creep into everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:56 pm

It is just still hard to believe there are those amongst us down here in Texas! And then he got elected to represent a major metropolitan area in Texas to boot! He just needs some help moving to the north about 70 miles or so from me!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:22 pm

LMAO How many gerbel jockeys you have down there? I bet more that you want to admit. GGG
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:18 pm

I will bet when the SOB's come out of the cl;oset they will be pushed back in it or they will leave and go to the north of the Red River!!! LMAO!! There is a lot of room down here but there ain't that much room left! Not for that kind of BS. Kind of like the US, love it or leave it!! Them's fighting words in my vocabulary!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:38 pm

Cant say that I blame you. they are embarresing at best, not to mention down right disgusting.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:42 pm

He's back in the news again talking about reforming the DPS CHL Statutes and talking about how much revenue TX has lost to Utah!! Arsehole - ought to shit up and go somewhere else where he is wanted!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:46 pm

Tell him to go to California they need more assholes out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:51 pm

I had not thought of that but I think I will send him a personal note and let him know his thought and opinions would be appreciated much more out there in the land of the fruits and nuts! Great idea!! LMAO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:59 pm

Fruits & nuts & gerbals & K-Y jelly. LMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:27 pm

I get ill just thinking about it!! LMAO!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:38 pm

Yea lets talk about something else. It's going to snow tomorrow into tomorrow night. It will be a sucky ride home after work. Should double my commute time.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:09 pm

We are still in the low 60's and upper 20's at night. Tomorrow night it is going to rain and we will see some of the white stuff! Maybe a little more on Monday morning and there will be some mornings next week in the teens! I wish you would keep this crap north of the Red River!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:52 pm

Why should I keep it all of the time? Now it's your turn. tuesday we may have our second blizzard. So I'll have to make a decission to go to work or stay home. Can you guess what I will choose? LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:39 pm

This is TX!! Everyone knows it doesn't snow in Texas!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:03 am

It will snow anywhere in the world, as long as our Lord God wants it too.
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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:01 am

He just needs to keep the northern parts colder than the southern parts!!

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PostSubject: Re: Burnam files bill to restrict recognition of concealed-handgun permits   Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:19 am

I for one will except whatever he gives us. I dont see anything good to come out of suggesting to him to curb his weather. GGG
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