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PostSubject: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:49 am

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Repealing 'Obamacare' Will Define Republicans in 2011
Andrea Stone
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AOL News WASHINGTON (Dec. 11) -- Forget tax cuts, gays in the military and even immigration. In 2011, the hot-button issue for newly ascendant Republicans will be the health care law. Again.

For those who thought "death panels" were so '09, or that President Barack Obama settled the matter when he signed the overhaul into law, think again. If there is one issue that promises to unite Republicans everywhere, it's the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Consider:

•The next speaker of the House, John Boehner, has pledged to repeal and replace what Republicans derisively call "Obamacare."

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House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio stands behind a copy of the Democrats' version of the health care bill during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington on Oct. 29, 2009.•Sarah Palin, when asked by Time magazine what she would do if elected president in 2012, said "the first priority 'of the next Republican president' should be 'to sign a bill for the repeal and replacement of Obamacare with true free-market, patient-centered reform.' "
•Republican governors, from Minnesota presidential hopeful Tim Pawlenty to Rick Perry in Texas, to those who haven't even taken office yet, such as Wisconsin's Scott Walker, have balked at implementing the health care law in their states.
•GOP legislators in 40 states have introduced bills to block all or part of the law.
•State attorneys general, most of them Republicans, have gone to court to challenge the constitutionality of the law's "individual mandate," which in order to create a large enough risk pool for insurers requires most Americans to have coverage or pay a penalty.
A sign of just how polarizing the health care debate has become: Four of the five federal judges who have weighed in so far have decided along party lines, with two Clinton appointees upholding the law and judges appointed by Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush allowing challenges to proceed. On Wednesday, another Bush appointee, U.S. District Judge Susan Wigenton, broke party ranks when she dismissed a lawsuit in New Jersey.

The law is likely to end up at the U.S. Supreme Court. Until then, critics say the court of public opinion gives them a potent political issue.

"Obamacare is the biggest example of government overreach we've ever seen," said Mike Connolly of the fiscally conservative Club for Growth. "It is the single greatest threat to economic freedom and growth, so it will remain a huge and defining issue for the 2012 campaign."

Tom Borelli of the National Center for Public Policy Research, a conservative think tank here, said there is "tremendous momentum" among the voters behind GOP gains: "Rolling back Obamacare is the top priority for tea party activists."

Frank Luntz, the GOP message guru who counseled Fox News commentators to always talk about "government-run" health care, said as the presidential primary takes over the national political debate, Republican lawmakers "will be driven to undermine Obamacare in every way possible. GOP primary voters want nothing short of repeal and they don't want compromise."

Risks and Rewards

But if Republicans focus on "Obamacare," will they make the same strategic mistake Democrats were accused of in the last election -- namely, putting the issue of health care over jobs and the economy? Despite passage of the historic legislation, voters did not give Democrats the credit some thought they deserved.

Yet as the law gradually takes effect, the potential for political rewards -- and risks -- rises.

"It is absolutely going to heat up and be a hot topic through 2014," when most provisions will be implemented, said Erikka Knuti of the Health Information Campaign, a consumer education group that supports the law. "If they [Republicans] make repeal of health care their central platform, they're leaving themselves up for big problems and backlash. Nobody's going to want to go back to being denied coverage for a pre-existing condition."

Yet that is exactly where many new members of Congress want to go. North Carolina's Renee Ellmers, a Palin protege, opposes requiring insurers to accept patients with pre-existing conditions -- including pregnancy. Austin Scott of Georgia, another House freshman, was asked if there was any part of the law he supported. He replied, "No, ma'am, there are not."

Ideologically tough attitudes like those have raised questions about whether Boehner will be able to control the "Tea Party Congress" or if new members will adjust their thinking to congressional reality.

If polls are to be believed, both may have to reconsider their positions.

While a slight majority opposes the health care law, there is evidence that many people like individual provisions such as allowing children up to age 26 to stay on their parents' insurance. The latest Kaiser health tracking poll revealed just a quarter want all or part of the law repealed.

'Repeal' or 'Repeal and Replace'?

Republicans have adjusted their slogan from "repeal" to "repeal and replace." Yet even that will be difficult. They may have new power in the House and more seats in the Senate, but Republicans still lack enough votes to overcome a filibuster or override a presidential veto.

House Republicans will, however, be able to highlight the 906-page law's costs and uncertainties in oversight hearings that could "convince people that the plan is an administrative nightmare," said John Pitney, a former GOP Hill staffer who teaches at Claremont McKenna College in California. "The risk for Republicans is that they might botch the 'replace' part of the 'repeal and replace' approach."


Sponsored Links Even before the 112th Congress convenes, Republicans can claim at least a small victory, though. The Obama administration has retreated on a tax reporting requirement that businesses found onerous.

But on the big things like health insurance exchanges and the individual mandate, Democrats are unlikely to budge. They'll get help from liberal groups that are painting GOP lawmakers as "health care hypocrites" who accept federally subsidized coverage but oppose it for 32 million uninsured Americans.

Luntz says Republicans must tread carefully not to alienate independents and centrists who may not like much of the health care law but do want changes made. "Republicans can't just call for the repeal of Obamacare," he said, "they need a clearly defined alternative."

But time, supporters say, is ultimately on their side.

"Benefits are beginning to play out," said Judy Feder, senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress. "The burden is on the opponents. They have a tough row to hoe to take it away."
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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:09 am

Something needs to happen to it! It was crazy for them to pass it in the beginning and is even more crazy to leave it around now!! What a frigging joke!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:41 am

That's was the libturds doing, they thought they were going to get away with a lot of shit. They got started up a whirlwind of socialist bullshit that peatered out with the influx of the Republican Party elected officials by the American people. They should be counting their remaining days in office. These califincation politians need to be run out and that goes for the harry reids and chuck schummers and the like. There is no rooms in this sociaty for politically correct assholes. We are fighting for our lives as a country in a wordly sea of competion, terrorism and other governments who want to see the leader of the free sorld fall. We as a nation of conservatives con not let this happen. We need to stand fast in our virtues and keep an eye on the newly elected Repuplicans so they do not do anything that will undermine what may be our last chance to regain our country. We can not let them do stupid things that could give this demoncrapic party to throw it up in our faces and give resurgence to the nappy-headed one.
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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:40 am

Looks like there is a federal judge that is helping them out! There has been a ruling by a federal judge that says the new health care law is not going to pass muster as it is not acceptable to require everyone in the US to purchase health insurance. Stay tuned as more comes down the pike as this is one of the critical issues for the health care program, that everyone has to participate. News last night made the comment that the ruling would hold things up for at least two years until the SCOTUS could get involved and issue s a ruling. I will search it out and get more info in the next couple of days as it is handed down and becomes more clear as to what the results of the decision will be! Frigging politicians! they knew this when they did it and went right ahead and did it anyway because of the super majority they had at the time! They all ought to be shot at sunrise for putting us in this position to begin with!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:27 pm

I heard this yesterday and laughed, pelosi was going around saying"How can this be?" Flipping a-holes. Your damn right they knew it was un-constitutional.
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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:08 pm

Without the supreme court acting or the president signing a repeal of the law I doubt the Reps could stop it or rather repeal it.
They may be able to defund it or some other action.

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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:22 am

If they can hold it up in federal court for the next two years, which is not a real problem with the federal system, there is hope that the Pubs will be in control of the congress and it will be done away with before it is fully implemented! We can only hope! There will be nothing Nobamadingalingadingdong can do then!! He will be gone and maybe his health care gone with him!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:00 pm

I'm hoping HIS health will be gone down the long bumpy road of failure. It's hard to put into civilized words how much I dislike that jerkoff.
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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:46 pm

Every time I see him it turns my stomach! I just cannot see that ever leading this country!! It is just totally out of place!!! JMHO!!

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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:47 pm

Ditto that.
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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:42 am

Well as always, the plot thickens! Now they have added into the mix the tax cuts and have not found a way to fund the costs involved. This affects the overall deficit by adding a tremendous load to the budget and no way to fund it! So there goes another batch of spending, close to $1B that has to be paid for in some future years that nobody gives a shit about other than us poor SOBs that have to pay the bills!!! this is just ridiculous!!

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PostSubject: Re: Pubs: Repeal obummer care.   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:10 pm

They need to be run out on a rail, enough is enough.
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